My life was as far away from God at that point as you could imagine [but] I went into this seminar, and this dude speaks the gospel in a way that was just so profound to me. The people who write the articles on this site may share some truth, but they definitely twist scripture more than the false prophets they write about, as well as make loads of accusations with no documentation. Is it helping these teachers repent? In sum, this is a useful article that needs some updating with recent developments in Caines life. First of all to those defending Christine Caine, the bible Gods Word, makes it very clear -women are not to preach,so quit defending her,and attacking us warning others not to follow her for their own good, instead take it up with God and argue with Him if you dont want to listen to his commands and have issues with them, tell God he is wrong ,not us.Why dont you read His word instead of lazily listening to people who you obviously are unable to discern if they are leading you off of the path , its about Him not these false prophets. Here she is twisting a scripture that warns against false teachers, that is actually rebuking those who warn against false teachers something the false teachers often do. That marred my image of God. We cant judge the hearts of the alleged converted, but we absolutely can judge the teaching. I write this as a Baptist, and so I would argue that the excommunication is a congregational responsibility and not something that pastors can impose alone (e.g., 1 Cor. I know because the simple fact that you believe (Revelation 2:20). NEW EPISODES POSTED WEEKLY. Hebrews 2:1 says: We must pay the most careful attention, therefore, to what we have heard, so that we do not drift away. Many have been drifting for decades. I dont know you personally, so Id like to believe that it is not your intention to be condescending, so Id like to make you aware that there could be another, more loving way of asking about why someone has chosen a particular resource for guidance.and to acknowledge that while the teaching may not be perfect, that they have obviously gained something positive from it. I felt many emotions and very vulnerable, but I could also feel God's presence with me in a palpable way. The couple also run a network of churches in Europe, as well as Propel Women, a ministry that aims to equip women to fulfil their God-given purpose. Chris Rosebrough Reviews Christine Caine at Passion 2015 Conference. Marrying and having babies was supposed to be my highest aspiration in life. If you know and read your bible that is quite obvious. I needed to see this. So I grew up feeling a lot of rejection, shame, insecurity, fear, and anger. Learn that though life is not always fair, Jesus is NOT finished. Yoga. CAN YOU CAST THE FIRST STONE? Why do you think you receive this feedback? janv. Contemplative Prayer #Disappointment #Moving #Mean "God is able to take the mess of our past and turn it into a message. During the many moments that she sat in waiting rooms, Caine also questioned why some people had it worse than her and why waiting rooms are not seen as ministry opportunities by many. Yes, Lydia was the LEADER of her house church and played a key role in getting her family baptized. 3:3). 4. Jehovahs Witnesses What are our motives in the confrontation? What are you making your God? I am not sure how you expect abusedand sexually abused women to be taught who they are in Christ by men, either. Dont mistake love of the world for the true love of God, His Son, and His scripture. What part are you using to back up your claim to defend Cain and Meyer? "God is able to take the mess of our past and turn it into a message. What Im reading are a whole bunch of prideful Im SO right and they are SO wrong! posts that arent helping anyone but perhaps the ego of the posters. I was full of shame, guilt, anger, unforgiveness and bitterness. Its not complicated. I have seen and experienced the damage of hearsay, twisted words, misunderstood contexts, and the like, and I also am an avid believer that the Lord will hold me accountable for every word I say (or type), including how those words impact the reputation, feelings, faith, and guidance of others. Praise Jesus'. I am not at that point where I would feel confident before Him doing the same, so I only ask that you understand. Whats your take on it? Response to correction reveals whether you are dealing with a brother or with a wolf. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple., The word mark is from (skopeo) which means to look at, behold, watch, contemplate; which is used metaphorically of looking to. It is used (Romans 16:17) of a warning against those who cause divisions, and in (Philippians 3:17) of observing those who walk uprightly that Christians might choose to walk after the example of the apostle and his fellow workers. Being that Christine Caine is a product of Hillsong, look up a must-watch video from Brian Moonan called HELLSONG. So young, Christine's life is already shattered and deprived of hope. Just saying. And the whole -you are tearing down His Kingdom bit just love till it hurts ,just love , love, love,anything and everything cuz its all about love is pure and utter b.s. Dont sit back and have others do the work for you. Second of all, I came to realize that coming on sites like this and calling people names, publicly questioning if they even know the LordWHEN I HAVE NEVER MET THEMis NOT in the spirit of Matthew 18. However, I see the followers of this site not as such. God is good and God does good, but bad things do happen to good people. Is tearing down others and their ministries winning souls to Christ? The best of Christine Caine Quotes, as voted by Quotefancy readers. God will be our judge! It is strictly forbidden by God for a woman to preach/teach when there are believers gathered to worship, as 1 Timothy 2 clearly states. I Love Christine Caines sermons Not you or anyone else will stop me from listening to her .. HAVE a nice blessed day , Maybe this doesnt have anything to do with the subject I know is that Christine came convinced my girlfriend that her parents were going to die if she didnt give her money and she ended up giving her entire savings on top of that Christine Caine told my girlfriend that her parents also had to give money but her parents did not want to give money so she tried to steal it from them and then got caught after that she bore owed money to give to christines king and Im talking thousands of dollars this is what Christine Caine did to me And my girlfriend I didnt know anything about it until it was all done Meanwhile Im watching my girlfriend go through hell because she wants all this money to give to Christine Caine anyway she possibly can get it she has turned into a nut case and there doesnt seem to be anything I can do about it so here I am Making my comment. The shame and guilt of childhood sexual abuse hasn't stopped Christine Caine from sharing the love of Jesus with people across the world. I pray those with ears to hear will find their way out. I am sure Satan is loving the lack of unity and twisting of scripture this article represents. I am sad to think that you guys would call yourselves Christians when you dont act like it. Youll find her corrupt theology lacking. I do NOT comment on hearsay. Complementarian John Piper shares teaching duties with a woman? . Christians publicly label entire groups of people, make assumptions about political affiliations, and vilify entire groups rather than seeking to lovingly understand and correct. Teachers? Traveling without your husband and encouraging women to submit to their husbands and follow their husbands leadership in the home! 5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me. A religious liberty newsletter that is a must-read for people of faith. Again, the stakes are high here. Besides usurping the pastor role, her teachings are not biblical. what did Paul call those that did trouble him in Galatians 5:12? 15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. You walked in the shame of it, and you buried it. This latter text is significant because of the parallel to 1 Corinthians 5. We're now able to provide a place through the A21 Campaign, an international antihuman trafficking organization with the goal of abolishing slavery in the 21st century, for those who feel like they have no purpose and that nobody loves them. ~ Christine Caine. Thanks to Christine, I plan on inviting several lost people to study the Bible with me this Easter season. His grace would be sufficient for me," says Caine. Christine Caine engages in New Age practices condemned in the Bible, such as this impartation described in the link. Weve always been Jesus first, kingdom first. God uses different people to reach the lost because every lost person is different. 4:00PM EDT 9/12/2014 Christine Caine. I have not said an iota about them, because I have not had any sort of personal interaction with them. Yes, I do know you to say such a thing. What Christ? Paul commands Titus and the believers in Crete to distance themselves from false teachers, As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him (Titus 3:10). When you're weak, hurting, uncertain, and afraid, one of the. . Presumptuous, ridiculous and like a Christine Caine sermon unbiblical. I do NOT comment on hearsay, other peoples experiences, other peoples commentary or who heard about who said what to who when. Gods will is very plainly stated in scripture. Im helping girls in the A21 transition homes who have been brutally abused and raped and are so shame-filled, helping them find their identity in Christ and stand on their own two feet, she told Hope 103.2, [but] Ive seen some of those same shame struggles in some of the most successful women, that battle with the shame of trying to balance life, thinking Im at the office too much and Im not the mother or wife I could be or girls that are in their mid 30s or 40s and are single and struggling with shame over that. That is the CLEAR difference. Wolf? Emergent Church A lot of us have drifted from that call of discipleship. That word is the same for us today we are responsible to test the spirits, research and hold everything up to Gods Word for comparison. We sit in our I see names of preaches being thrown around without regard, I see many arguments going back and forth trying to outdo one another with self-knowledge and a a tonne of Bible bashing. #Past #Trials #Tests "Often the very things that you think have disqualified you are the ones that qualify you to do what God has . A Berean? Emma is a trustee for Christian festival Creation Fest and lives in Cornwall with her husband and two teenage daughters. 2:11, 14). 2:1) Am I acting like this? Together with her husband, Nick, they founded Equip & Empower Ministries, A21, Propel Women, and Zoe Churches. [1] [2] gelist, Speaker, [4] [5] 2 Proponent of Word . 2) What is the role of a single women & widows in the church, if she is not preoccupied with the duties of wife and mother? When she first heard the diagnosis, Caine says her mind began to race "down the worst track like a runaway train, and I had to pull it back before it hit a wall and caused irreparable destruction." 2:14). Worse, she enjoys teaching young women to step into leadership roles that scripture forbids and is unashamed to say so. We think discipleship is: Im going to be a better version of me, Gods going to give me whatever I want, Im going to live my best life now. I only speak on my personal experiences, what I have read, what I have heard, what I have been taught, and what interactions I participated in. We extend that respect to all First Nations peoples. Instead of this kind of criticism, you should do as they do, pick a subject on your experiences, teach & encourage pole to walk in Jesus Christ. they apply to Cain and Meyer. SO MANY THINGS WE CALL BIBLICAL ARE JUST CULTURAL, For those that have not come across you before, tell us a little about yourself. So its more about our faith levels than our ability is that right? Purpose Driven if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? Or when Ive pointed something on their website that was completely false, the usual response? Stay blessed. Emma Fowle is assistant editor of Premier Christianity and editor of Voice of Hope, Premier's quarterly devotional magazine. Dear Amy, You have the right idea. Or, as SBTS President Dr Al Mohler put it, a prosperity movement for millennialsthat minimizes the Gospel content and diffuses a presentation of spirituality instead. Because women did not possess the same equality rights as modern women, it appears unusual that Lydia would be capable of inviting a group of foreign men to her house without a mans consent. Remember Deborah was in the Bible and she was a prophetess is nothing wrong with women being in the ministry. While I understand having a passion for the scriptures (it is a passion of mine as well, as it hurts me to see people misled via ignorance of the scriptureand I have lost friends to cults this way), I do not believe it is beneficial to you, the Christian church, the gospel message, or the lost who need to be saved for you to go about attacking Christines ministry online. Please tell how the conversation went. Every single one of them teaches false doctrine, from Sarah Young's blasphemous "channeling" of Jesus, to T.D. People are too busy being judges more than preaching the Bible. Christ and Paul confronted people DIRECTLY. Do you have an example of how saying,Youre lost, I bet you voted for Obama and Hillary drew someone to your church? I have already shared my comfort level (or lack thereof) with talking about people I dont know without confronting them first, or speaking about ministries I have not had any interaction with. Numerous private jets. Lets get people into the boat and stop fighting amongst one another. Ive had non-Christians call out amazing observations about my character (both good and bad) and speak unbelievable truth into my life.I even grew to fall in love with the scripture through being challenged about the path to salvation by a cult member! How do you know that? Breaking fellowship might seem a hard thing to do, but remember, if a sister persists in her sin or wont hear you after giving them the scriptures, that means theyhave already broken fellowship with Jesus. They want to judge the world because it makes them feel better about their sad little lives. Yet for Scott, the negative impact of this event lingers. To believe a womans place is smaller than a mans is at best silly and at worst disingenuous to what God offers. When the bestselling author, internationally acclaimed speaker and leader of multiple international organisations appears on our morning Zoom call, she is straight off the treadmill, laughing and apologising for her appearance in a sorry-not-sorry way that epitomises her no-nonsense attitude. Somehow I doubt theres much of that going on. Among these are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have delivered over to Satan, so that they may be taught not to blaspheme (1 Tim. Its so sad I just cant un see all this bologna you all have a blessed life Ill pray for you In Jesus name, Karen, I completely agree with you. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); 1 Billy Graham Parkway, Charlotte, NC 28201 I tried to tell somebody that could have intervened, but 40 years ago in Australia, the word abuse didn't even exist. This silly arguement is what pro-female pastors (Christine Caine, Joyce Meyer, etc.) Its time for us all to check our markers. I think a lot of my past had really caught up with me, and so I was very sceptical about the love and the grace of God. What do you think you can do differently to appeal to the masses that you should be trying to save? Christine Caine (Activist, Evan- [1] [2] [3] 1 She is preaching to men. Get encouraging stories and messages from Billy Graham delivered to your inbox every weekend. As Ive said before, if this is leading people to Christ or causing teachers to repent, then AMEN. Listen in as Christine Caine joins Praise to speak about the true character of God. Youre going to be OK. How Did I Get Here? You have yet to back up with scripture how what you are doing is the appropriate way of handling false teachers. Wanting to be right? > Quotable Quote. Christine Caine is a member-leader in a doctrinally heretical word-faith church. John says that the congregation has a responsibility to refuse all support for such teachers. Maybe its time to watch this short clip. In 2015, Caine founded Propel Women, an organization that aims to empower women in Christian-related . Also, I realize this argument is contentious among divided denominations who believe preaching and teaching are mens roles only in the church. We asked him about this seemingly unique warning about Covid-19, and how he feels about being labelled both charismatic and progressive, The Bible teacher and founder of Living Proof Ministries speaks candidly about her knotted-up life, From living in open community with drug addicts to raising his family in a Cambodian slum, Craig Greenfield has spent decades living in some of the poorest places on earth. What I went through in 2016-2017, I think God was preparing me for what everyone else was going to go through in 2020. Therefore, rid yourselves of all malice and all deceit, hypocrisy, envy, and slander of every kind. 1 Peter 2:1, Dont grumble against one another, brothers and sisters, or you will be judged. Believe it or not, I used to believe very similar to youthat as a woman I had no power to influence other men, that I was to simply shut up and do as I am told by the men around me, etc. You cant see the difference between calling someone out for false teaching or calling someone out for being a woman in charge. You think this would say some kind of socialized when it isnt. Please show proof. 5. I was honored when my former boss (who is male) told me that seeing the way I live my life inspired him to get back into his Bible and find a church for his family, as he had walked away from his faith after 12 frustrating years of Catholic school. Word of Faith Parting question: did you see The Shack? As I started to serve in youth ministry in my mid-20s, I realized I was going to have to deal with the darkness in my own life before I could shed light on anybody else's. The weapon of the enemy are the wolves standing behind pulpits teaching lies and heresies to the sheep, who would rather follow them than Jesus Christ. 40.2K followers. Then you cant judge anything outside of your sphere, and you judge me because I do make a judgement, I dont need to see C. Cain personally to hear one of her sermons or Joyce Meyer either, just pick up one of their books, watch one of their videos and their words either accuses or excuses their actions. 7:8 & 28), in order to devote whole-hearted service to God without distraction or obligation of the family. Catholicism (RCC) Hearsay? One taps you on the shoulder when youre doing something wrong, the other tells you that you are, inherently, wrong. Is it the written word of God, or are you caught up in tradition and religion. 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