April 2020 Quite literally, we were told our objections merely parroted right wing talking heads in the editorial section of their national periodical. November 2021 June 2017 Inerrancy Pornography Polls November 2013 October 2022 February 2017 This is totally false. I am sure she was a wonderful person, and I hope she is saved. Camp -- Does this make sense? He is. February 2022 March 2014 April 2011 Their concerns included claims that the denomination was overly politicized and weakening biblical authority and traditional teaching on the divinity of Jesus. June 2010 It, actually, was not the homosexual issues that urged my decision to leave as I've always considered it a symptom of a greater problem in the church. April 2022 All Paths Lead To God You should feel filled up and empowered going to church - that's why you go! December 2017 When he realized our situation he just asked us what we believed communion was. Martin Luther November 2018 Presiding Bishop Herbert Chilstrom Climate Change Adam And Eve Most mainline churches language and cultural forms are inaccessible to most people in their neighborhoods. What I am trying to say, for those of you who may have to drive one hour to a conservative Lutheran Church, why not go to the Catholic Church down the street -- as I did? That's right: according to current trends, the church will basically cease . Known as the church of "God's work. Yes, it is slightly more conservative, but they still ordain women, and there is very little in terms of pastoral oversight. Only 10 congregants attended. Fracking Gospel Of Affirmation The Lutheran May 2015 There are still some good churches out there. March 2014 As for the Pastor leaving, don't be so quick on following suite. Every month it was going downhill more. And I can't imagine a Lutheran pastor of any stripe who would demand money to bestow God's free grace in Christ to a helpless child. This was largely a peaceful demonstration. Rev Nadia Bolz Weber Socialism September 2012 Deaconness Synods January 2022 Samaritan's Purse Inclusion In 2015, Pew Research estimated that 1.4 percent of the U.S. population self-identifies with the ELCA. Feminism PC(USA) July 2020 The relativistic "social-justice ideology" has been swallowed whole-hog by mainland Protestant denominations for more-or-less a half century. September 2011 Lcmc July 2015 White Privilege I want to compliment the discussion here,it makes me think of Paul's command in Ephesians 4: 1-5 "As a prisoner for the Lord, then, I urge you to live a life worthy of the calling you have received. Jonah January 2017 June 2022 January 2020 October 2021 Of course, I could also see that history tells us that the early Christians immersed converts. United Nations Thanksgiving 11/16/2020 3:00:00 PM CHICAGO - The Church Council of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) has affirmed the proposed Future Church design that is focused on a renewed purpose to activate the entire church so that more people may know the way of Jesus and discover . My heart is telling me that for right now, this is where I should be, so I will heed that prompting and stay, I feel I am supposed to be here. Why would she need a Savior? ELCA = PCCA. May 2021 August 2020 So, while I'm not thrilled about our little church being a member of the ELCA, I do take great joy in attending our local services, the relationships we've built, and even attending adult study classes when the schedule is right. April 2017 We dont know what will work ahead of time. Bisexual . June 2012 March 2022 Marcus Borg Reiki June 2010 I know your initial comments were posted a few years ago. May 2018 Exposing the ELCA Newsletters & Important Websites. Lcmc Future July 2017 I would like to add a 12th point, and that is the ELCA's support of anti-Semitic groups in the mid-east. I, too, am taken aback by what I call the "alphabet soup" of Lutheran denominations. Switched to a Missouri synod church the following week and haven't looked back. January 2018 July 2018 The losses for denominations already hemorrhaging members at historic rates have been significant. A sinner saved by the free gift of grace alone, through the free gift of faith in Christ alone, bestowed by Baptism and the preached Word of God. June 2020 Camp Maxine Waters had encouraged Dems to confront Republicans, & MN. January 2012 But I just pray that Jesus will come to them in their dreams and visions to lead them to the truth. November 2019 December 2022 Racism Get out of the ELCA. By continuing to use this website, you consent to the terms outlined in our privacy policy. Standing Rock . There will be a time to leave this church if it stays within the ELCA, I realize that. December 2019 Satan November 2016 September 2010 I'm still broken hearted over it all and can't yet imagine walking into worship at another church, but my heart is at peace, I no longer feel ANY promptings or urges to stay. July 2011 I can't help but wonder what Martin Luther would have to say about what has been going on with the Lutheran church, seem like a LOT of change in the last generation or so. November 2015 Our hands," the ELCA emphasizes the saving grace of God through faith in Jesus Christ, unity among Christians and service in the world. Other Religions November 2012 Taxes Elca College The Lutheran Sin is sin, & we must repent & seek Jehovah God through HIs Word. January 2011 "Let God be true and every man a liar," the Apostle Paul wrote in Romans 3. My main issue is with pretty much all Catholic churches, only those that have taken the classes and converted to the Catholic Church can partake in the Holy Sacrament! February 2012 Satan December 2013 Fracking April 2015 Sanctuary Curt - I don't want to be sounding anti Catholic either, just a view of why I am not big on RCC in which we agree. February 2020 Sin April 2013 July 2021 September 2016 Elca World Hunger July 2011 October 2013 June 2021 on Goddess/Mother God/Gender Neutral Lang. Berlin Wall Including this one: Illegal Immigration NALC belongs in the list, IMH&FO. Cursing I do not agree with all the teachings of the Catholic Church -- for example, contraception and divorce. January 2023 We don't need an organized church for that. Elca Video February 2011 God November 2015 Yet consider how rapidly this future is arrivingwell within most of our lifetimes. January 2021 August 2014 Spirit Guides Faith that doesn't produce good works is dead, thus is not saving faith. White Supremacists Rob Bell I know that LCMC was formed as a breakaway group, which first began with the WordAlone Network (WAN). August 2018 The only prompting I feel is the same St. Augustine felt - Tolle Lege. March 2010 ELCA Hits Bottom. . Gay Bar November 2016 Eappi The forces dismantling the established congregational and denominational system are much bigger. Also, I, like many other people, do not know what the problem is with an ordained female leading service or for that matter, taking part in any other parts of the church. China has gained in 2,400 products, 150,000 U.S. farm acres & 140,000 TX energy acres waiting for Green Deal approval. Rob Bell In December, the First United Methodist Church of Jonesboro, Arkansas, filed a lawsuit against the Arkansas Conference after the conference voted to reject the church's disaffiliation and suspended its pastor. Anglican Church Naked And Unashamed August 2015 Your comment will be posted after it is approved. April 2012 May 2012 May 2013 August 2021 For the 2022 special sessions, the Texas Conference had the most significant loss of congregations, as 294 congregations voted to disaffiliate. Feminist Theology Thank you for permitting me to express my views. The ELCA has shown itself to be pro-abortion. Youth, February 2023 Resurrection December 2011 Silencing Pastors September 2014 Gospel Of Affirmation October 2012 February 2012 March 2017 It was not as if these congregations chose the most theologically conservative new homes. A few more steps were added to the ELCA disaffiliation process, which is described here . June 2017 As far as him leading his flock away from the ELCA, he's a younger guy, came up through the ELCA Seminary system, and all he's known as a Pastor is the ELCA. The name Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA or "this church") as used herein refers in general references to this whole church, including its three expressions: congregations, synods, and the churchwide organization. Last year, the Global Methodist Church officially launched as a theologically conservative alternative to the mainline Protestant UMC. Portico Benefit Services August 2020 Dear Sister in Christ Kathy, Same with transporting thousands of illegals & 80,000 Afghanis across the U.S. God's approval will be in our faith in Jesus Christ, HIs Son, through the knowledge of God's Word, the Bible, & Power of the Holy Spirit. May 2015 A recent study from the Pew Research Center shows that spirituality and faith fall fourth in the list of sources of meaning for Americans, after family (69%), career (34%), and money (23%). January 2022 Lift Maybe that's bad, maybe that's good? This will direct your funds to your congregation, and it will alert others that you oppose ELCA leadership. -- I know that is futile. Evil Race December 2021 Content beginning from 2018. April 2018 Community Organizing April 2014 Chicago, IL 60631. Herchurch Social Justice January 2021 Intolerant September 2021 June 2020 The RCC says Jesus was not the only one who made payment for sins by taking the full punishment they require, but that sinners also pay that penalty. It hurt to leave those I loved for 30 years. September 2011 November 2015 May 2011 2 Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love. January 2018 May 2016 It is quite gratifying to see the number of people turning against the ELCA. Bishop August 2019 Christian Nationalism Sin February 2018 I cannot support it any longer. They fled their old churches, and by the grace of God built a new church, and named the road where the church was built as Pella Ave., as in where the Christians fled to during the destruction of Jerusalem. Our people were told if we agreed with the election being stolen, and said so, that they were not telling the truth. In 2019 and 2020 we celebrate 50 years of Lutheran women being ordained in the United States, 40 years of women of color being ordained, and 10 . Exposing the ELCA Newsletters & Important Websites. Your comment will be posted after it is approved. They have changed their rules many times - eat meat Fri. - go to hell. One other thing of note: Illustration December 2016 May 2016 Tolerance With all due respect to Mary, I think she would be shocked and appalled. Judge Kavanaugh My home church where I grew up in voted after the latest homo acceptance issue, and that was just one of the many reasons, and they voted with a majority to leave the ELCA and join the LCMC. January 2012 Racism Nakedness October 2012 I am absolutely sure of one thing: Not one person in the church, including the priest, agrees with ME on everything. God cannot change; his word, like himself, is immutable. April 2011 Pronouns Please allow a few minutes for this process to complete. on Goddess/Mother God/Gender Neutral Lang. The ELCA say it now sees the doctrine of justification in a "new light." 6. Pornography Jesus had to learn to respect the Canaanite woman who was a "dog". We need to reclaim it. Sorry for this late post on a similar situation. October 2022 I certainly wouldnt consider the Catholic Church with their centuries of hiding pedophile priests, abusing and killing indigenous peoples for refusing to give up their pagan religions and the abuses suffered by countless individuals at Catholic orphanages throughout the world. All December 2012 Satan If your god however you define him, her, it, or they never demands change, then your god is you. Herchurch Missionaries Welca April 2013 Missionaries We envision a new form of connectionalism, defined by shared ministry, equal accountability, and practical governance.". November 2011 After all the rancor, insults, you-name-it, on internet threads, that was well, beautiful. October 2013 Curt, I left the ELCA after the 2009 Assembly. Its not their fault. All Immigration October 2016 The belief statement of my old church appears orthodox, but what I read in this pastor's sermons online scares me. Angels Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Rage Silencing Free Speech [Jan. 11, 2019 -- ELCA Facts] "As of December 31, 2016, there were 3,563,842 baptized members in the ELCA. July 2019 October 2014 June 2011 Eappi November 2014 February 2019 March 2015 April 2015 Sounds like you made the right call early on. Feminism September 2013 January 2016 Salvation Army April 2014 House churches popped up here and there during the virus madness, when we saw many organized churches do the unthinkable - voluntarily shut down and literally turn people away. January 2023 June 2021 Border Fence An otherwise predictable Churchwide Assembly for the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) took a surprising turn as a newly-adopted inter-faith policy statement asserts there are "limits of our knowing" the way to God the Father. The ELCA leadership's express intent for decades has been to deceptively foist the world's unbiblical beliefs and practices on both its parishioners and its ever-shrinking remnant of confessional pastors. May 2014 Similarly, congregations leaving the ELCA overwhelmingly bypassed the more conservative Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod and Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod denominations for the new Lutheran Congregations in Mission for Christ and the North American Lutheran Church. Environmentalism Salvation Army February 2020 Salvation Prayer Our pastor of 12 years had a let sleeping dogs lie attitude toward the political turmoil on the horizon. Cursing Lutheran Immigration And Refugee Sevice The ELCA stuff in Chicago, that stuff is easy to walk away from, it's the local connection that would be truly missed. Mainline Protestant December 2019 Many of these are holdovers from previous eras. Having been ELCA and LCMC, I would be very hesitant to suggest the LCMC as an alternative to the ELCA. May 2014 December 2020 July 2016 Communion We spoke with the pastor before the service. Mother Teresa didn't present the Gospel of Christ crucified and risen to forgive the world's sin and bring those who trust in Him unto eternal life. March 2010 Reiki Astrology Departing Presbyterian leaders also characterized the policy on gay ordinations as the straw that broke the camels back, but far from the sole reason. August 2013 But for now the uneasiness in my heart has quieted down. Trying to reverse it is pointless. Saul Alinsky There is so much that needs to be discovered at the grassroots through local experimentation. The church cannot mandate or direct ELCA congregations and ministries to respond in certain ways. Acceptance of the person and forgiving them is the true meaning of being a Christian, not acceptance of the sin nor excluding those looking for salvation! Lutheran Church Of Hope Drag Queen I would take objection with the blogger who said you have to be a member of the LCMS before you can take communion. The Finger June 2015 Guns January 2021 2019 ELCA Churchwide Assembly Pat Robertson Standing Rock In the year that my husband and I were in between churches we visited a LCMS church in a neighboring town and were allowed to take communion. Hell April 2021 Presiding Bishop Elizabeth Eaton Then, as the Scripture follows, Peter said a dumb thing (in his misunderstanding of Christ's mission), and the Protestants say at that point Jesus revoked his solemn pronouncement. Martin Luther Gay Marriage . Welca Just some things to think about. Lutheran Social Services September 2014 Nalc June 2011 Premarital Sex While most of the departing congregations have opted to join the GMC, some, including the megachurch White's Chapel of Southlake, Texas, have become nondenominational. March 2018 It has only declined since, and the decline has been accelerating. During one of my visits to the ELCA headquarters, the national mission director took me into a closet that held the congregations' responses to the first sexuality study of the ELCA. I loved the music and liturgy of the Traditional Lutheran service. January 2017 Resurrection This divided our church: those that recognized the false teaching of the ELCA and those that wanted to cling on. Lutheran Church of Guam: Intends to leave ELCA Dual membership in ELCA and LCMS ELCA-Related Organizations Center for Chinese Ministry (CCM) of the ELCA: Sep 19: 60 pastors of the CCM unanimously issued a statement about ELCA decisions. As a sanctuary church, the ELCA publicly declares that walking alongside immigrants and refugees is a matter of faith. Equality Act February 2012 Holy Spirit July 2012 The ELCA is in a death spiral, and Bishop Eaton will someday have to rationalize her clear role in the demise, a truly shameful legacy! Presiding Bishop Elizabeth Eaton Spirit Guides Reform Elca November 2019 . I couldnt join an ELCA church, being confused by their shifting sand doctrine. We are now in the call process for a new pastor. By the time this became more clear, I was in love with this particular church. Smudging Synods March 2010 Inerrancy My amateur opinions of the possibilities: LCMS, WELS and ELS have changed little since the Reformation. Elca February 2012 Rage July 2010 Biden had flipped Trump's policies & Biden favored Iran, who funded Hamas in Palestine to attack Israel in 2021. Look at Pope Francis -- he is more Lutheran than many Lutherans! Lcmc During the year I was president, I learned a LOT about the nitty-gritty of how a local church really functions, as well as spending even more time with my Pastor, which has only endeared him to me even more. The situation in the PC (U.S.A.) was hopeless as I see it, said one Presbyterian pastor who left with his congregation to join the Covenant Order of Evangelical Presbyterians. July 2021 Youth, February 2023 In fact nearly every faithful pastor I knew as Assistant to the Bishop suffers or has suffered as a result of ELCA pressure on their ministry to conform. It is the seventh-largest Christian denomination by . June 2020 Intersex August 2012 February 2014 Christopher - Your post demonstartes one of the problems I have, there are literally so many Lutheran branches and churches now, and som much change, that it's hard to keep up. Other Conferences that saw large quantities of churches leave as part of special sessions last year included North Alabama (198 disaffiliations), Northwest Texas (145 disaffiliations), Indiana (105 disaffiliations), Central Texas (81 disaffiliations) and West Ohio (80 disaffiliations). Sanctuary Yoga Mary was a sinner, since she called God her Savior. Gay Bar Thank you for posting this letter. August 2014 Why is this happening and what can be done? Missionaries Our new presbytery is trying to help us be successful without being bullied by a denomination that has turned its back on the Gospel of Jesus Christ.. Fundamentalists Paula Schlueter Ross. March 2014 I like that. Return to homepage. 8765 W Higgins Road August 2011 Your first post was over 2 years ago. 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