You can put on a puzzled/pitying face and rotate in comments like, Wow, thats rude, and What a strange thing to say.. Dont wear it to work, fine. There has to be a boundary of reasonable action, and I think that the OP has done pretty much everything reasonable. I would not send her to HR, they are likely to be the dingbats that will turn it back on you. OP could also ask the HR person if they can smell anything on them. Many problems can lie behind that runny nose. Thanks for giving your more mature (compared to the coworker) perspective here. OP, it could be in coworkers head. Morning all. There was actually a study done a while ago that found that a lot of people with sensitivities to fragrance actually had psychosomatic sensitivities. 5.3k views Reviewed >2 years ago. That usually means they are fooling around or are a snitch. Thank you, Ill suggest that to my manager! Im super-sensitive to the smell of tobacco smoke, but this does go to show you that it can linger in unexpected places. The point is, it is perfectly reasonable to ask coworkers to make modest changes to help with allergies or even plain discomfort, but at a certain point, the burden shifts to the coworker if theres still a problem. Good idea! Theres a point at which the OP is entitled to stop trying to change her life to accommodate this, and that point is now, given how unhelpful and rude the coworker is being. I mentioned to my manager that I was cutting out the one thing I could think of that could be leaving a scent, and so far there hasnt been additional complaints (that I know of). Apparently it made her sick when she was pregnant with me. I love shoe sniffing stories, especially when it involves hot girls with stinky shoes. Its not so bad, really, to catch a whiff here or there, but a lot of patchouli is in the form of oil, which makes it even more concentrated and in your face. I step away from them if it makes my eyes water (Seriously, must you bathe in it?? That stuff is horrid as is varnish and a lot of paints, although paint companies are getting better and better at doing paint formulations that dont make even non asthmatics want to gag. I dont wear the one perfume I own (which is very light and solid perfume so I can wear a very small amount) to work because I dont want to disturb coworkers. We go out to eat Mexican food at least once a week, and each time I remind him at least once to chew his chips with his mouth closed. Jerk. I'd excuses myself and if boss asked why I'd say I can't be near someone who sniffles or. Complaints may be about your work performance or personality. OP has tried really hard to accommodate this coworkers reasonable original request, and it hasnt worked. The last time she used baby powder on a babys bum was approximately 31 years ago. They will tackle the situation without compromising your request. Ooh, I would love to have a coworker who smelled like cookies! Several people wrote in to say that . And I dont know if the shirty pun was intentional or not, but I like it. I want to clarify that my But I agree that patchouli is one.of.those.smells. line meant that most will either love it or hate it as evidenced by our two opinions here. Im worried that there might be an underlying medical issue. And then walk away. Whenever I'm within 20 metres of a sniffer, every sniff makes my whole body . Not everything can be accommodated. Another indicates that asthmatics may have worse symptoms if they perceive an odor as irritating their asthma (same scent identified as alleviating to one group and irritating to another, the irritating group all had a much more significant response). Just dont what? This was just a suggestion for if OP is not comfortable with that as a sort of hey Ive done all I can to prove its not me, now Im done entertaining your rudeness. Re: Constant phlegm / snorting problem - please help. I switched to unscented laundry stuff, shampoo, body wash and antiperspirant but the complaints continued. I guess my point is if coworker is smelling something and attributing it to the OP because of past issues, something needs to be done to determine what the source of something is, and I know blindfolds are a weird thing, but it might actually worth it to float as a trial balloon that Look youre smelling something, we agree you are, youre not crazy, but we DONT agree on what something is. However, nothing I could do would fix the problem. I worked with someone who really didnt like one of our co-workers so she was constantly making mean comments about this person scent and appearance. Since I am one of those super sensitive people, I can say I have smelled things strongly that my friends and family cannot smell at all. About a month ago, one of my coworkers told me that the perfume I was wearing bothered her. There was no mention of this in the letter. And it smelled *horrible* and wouldnt come out; I tried vinegar and Oxi-clean after about five washes and that seemed to help. I wear a peppermint lotion on my hands that I can hold to my nose to clear it, and just deal with it. I have had reactions to certain smells, even one flavor of herbal tea, that makes me sneeze and sneeze. Oh, like I can use neutragena sensitive skin moisturizer and I can use neutragena sensitive skin sunscreen, but if I use neutragena sensitive skin moisturizer with sunscreen, I break out in a horrible painful rash. My girlfriend know about me sniffing her shoes. It strikes me that she was initiating a power play. I have a coworker who DROWNS himself in cologne at the end of the day, every day. Once that boundary is understood, you can use that to have a productive discussion with the coworker. Brownie batter? I call them vanilla napalm (since every time Ive had a migraine form at work, Ive smelled cloyingly awful (probably fake) sweet vanilla, even if its supposedly a floral scent) So far, my management or OHSA rep has handled the dirty work of getting those removed. I share a house with my mother; she uses fabric softener and her preferred detergent. Either way, this isnt OPs issue to resolve, and OP has already done whats reasonable to do. I can do that too. Typically I remove myself from the situation asap, while letting the fragrance-wearer know as gently as possible why Im bailing. The office could have other environmental factors that are actually causing coworkers issues- like dirt in carpets or something. You can do what you can to not overtly smell of fragrance, but I would be pissed if a coworkers extremely sensitive nose caused my employer to change my lifestyle so drastically outside of work. Oils and fragrances with higher concentrations of aromatic compounds have more longevity but, in general, less sillage than their alcohol-based and/or less concentrated counterparts. Also, interestingly enough, I have grandparents who live in another country. Get private office or moved away from said problem because I'm a good employee they don't want to lose because I can't concentrate or keep my sanity at work. Policy. No one likes the idea of others wondering if they shower properly. (Relatively scent-free.) LOL I do admit Ive had that urge. This accomplishes TWO things. Ditto with my kids shampoo and bubble bath. I nearly had to go to the ER due to a lady meeting with my boss about Rotary. Theres no perfume smell, it smells very natural to me. Wash my hands right after, thats not a problem. I bet the letter writer burns incense, which is pervasive and will stick to clothing. In recent years, Ive developed a strong sensitivity to certain smells. Im guessing no, otherwise the coworker would have an office reputation for being sensitive. swatting away an annoying fly that landed on the nose. I wonder if OP has tried washing her clothes with a diluted vinegar mix? Wait, shes not allergic or so scent-sensitive that its giving her headaches, or other negative physiological effects? The co-worker in this situation is absolutely going about things unprofessionally, but as someone with scent sensitivity, I can sympathize. You see the salesmen on the metro who wear little vials of oil on these cross-body belts. Bravo. Glad Im not the only one. I dont think she does, but I think she does genuinely believe that the OP is still wearing perfume. (Though I do still wonder what it takes to teach kids to chew with their mouths closed). Her professional background includes designing curriculum, writing books, coaching business leaders, and speaking and training. My coworker sniffles ALL DAY LONG. Its a hippie scentmaybe. Im sure she encounters scents she doesnt care for every day that she has no control over and she just deals with it. It seems like some people in an office environment get a pet Thing To Complain About and lose track of either the importance or the existence of the Thing, sometimes both. They made a make shift area in a corner wth an old desk and asked me if I Ive tried to explain to my coworker that basically nothing I use is scented anymore, but she makes exaggerated sniffing noises and says things like, Oh, patchouli AGAIN? when I get near her. But Im not going to stop wearing it on weekends and Im not going to stop burning incense in my home. Starting a couple of years in, they brought in unscented liquid soap for the public bathrooms, because theres not much point asking everyone to use unscented products at home/in their hotel rooms if possible, and then have everyone use orange-scented hand soap all day. Seconding the thanks! Colds typically go away on their own after about a week. This was my initial thought as well. The human brain is able to play some crazy tricks on us. The fragrances usually smell pretty to me, but trigger migraines nonetheless. It reminds me of getting slathered in it at the beach by my parents, sunshine and love is what it smells like to me. I used to use an incense in my apartment and didnt realize how it clung until I started to get compliments on my perfume. I cant pinpoint the source, but they have a very distinct smell. Changes in temperature or barometric pressure can also cause non-allergic rhinitis, he adds. Sniffing is a little less offensive, as people with colds or allergies frequently sniff throughout the day but do not do so to be rude. It doesnt help with co-worker, but since what co-worker is doing can be utterly crazy making and gaslighting feeling, I hope it helps you see how it could be just her. It was just easier to ask me not to let it bother me and keep asking me to try new products and deal with her myself. I think Alisons advice is bang on, and the mediated conversations/HR accommodation advice is going to be important for snapping Coworker out of her combative/belittling behavior and into a more productive vibe. What she doesn't know is that I love to sniff all her friends shoes. All Rights Reserved. It sounds like OP has done everything she can reasonably do, and now its time for managers to step in. They do have a smelllol. I dont have any advice, but I am wondering how it is fair or reasonable that the OP should even have to make all of these concessions at her own expense because her coworker wont stop picking on her. It can provide an. I dont have anything new/useful to add, but it sounds like youve gone above and beyond to accommodate your coworker. But whenever I smell patchouli, I think of my mom many years ago, and its comforting. That said, I do have scented shampoo because there are like 3 on the market that are unscented, most of which I cant afford. The only solution we have is avoidance, and that is made virtually impossible by the laundry and cosmetics industries. At the same time, my regular hearing has worsened noticeably. This. However, I noticed you said you stopped wearing perfume but have you also stopped using the indie oil scents? I was thinking that too. She should take this up with the manager, not with you directly, and certainly not with little cutting comments instead of direct requests. There's a new guy at work, he's been here for about a month, he sits opposite me and is driving me insane already. Be clear that you took her complaints seriously & youve done all you can reasonably do, then suggest that she look for other causes that arent you. Stop using the lemon-scented body wash for a few days and see if she keeps making the comments. Urp. Problem is, no one around you sees the flames or senses the heat, so they have no sense of urgency to bolt for the doors. I think this is a good suggestion, was about to say the same. Yeah, I have definitely smelled things that werent there. A lot of times they put them on 12 hours ago for a night out and arent planning on taking a shower until after work the next day. Then again, here the people rocking the strong scents tend to be older and more senior in the organization. Arrrgh. ^^namelesscommentater said what I was thinking.^^. Time for bending over backwards is past here. Im reading all the advice here for other potential sources of the smell and Im picturing Gene Hackman in The Conversation, tearing up his apartment looking for a listening device. I will sometimes start to smell a certain scent that I associate heavily with a person when Im on the phone with him. Ive been good so far, though. It can be super effective for getting odors out, although certain perfumes and oil-based scents get so embedded in clothes that they may not come out at all :(. But some people never stop being bullies, or they become bullies in adulthood because theyre tired of being powerless. Unfortunately theres no way to pinpoint it unless you literally go sniffing around. I dont necessarily think anyone should totally change the soap they use because as someone who is dramatically allergic/sensitive to smells, I really dont think commercial soaps smell THAT strongly. I had my last root beer float at age 9 or so, and I will never eat another one as long as I live. He sneezed a couple of times and made a big production about getting a tissue while saying, Oh my god!! Im not sure the OP really can win with this co-worker. No. I feel like it's so rude and inconsiderate of other coworkers. As part of following AAMs #3 advice, you should ask your boss to help you figure out if you still have a scent issue. I agree! My mom swears up and down that baby powder smells like dirty diapers because she so strongly associates the two. Issues between coworkers can go from bad to worse and even become toxic! I literally had to blow my nose all through my second pregnancy. Dolores had a desk about thirty feet away and told me to stop and that the smell was making her sick. Its tough to describe. Sniffing is one of my triggers to, whenever I her even one small sniff I get a huge panic attack. And all of her clothes, even immediately after laundering, smell exactly like her perfume, which is interesting because the detergent on its own it quite strongly scented. 7)Constant messaging and texting Constant communication at work (as well as at home) is a very very good sign of friendship and mutual understanding. Regardless, the AGAIN? You are a much nicer person than I. I would have drawn a line in the sand with your co-worker in a likely not-nice manner. I personally hate perfumes of any kind, and I know people who get migraines from them. Or maybe the scents linger in a vehicle that then gets stuck on you, so to speak, or on an office chair? But it can also be something in the building, in the carpet, or any other thing. There were some pretty extreme suggestions about changes that OP could make to try and address it there too my favorite was keeping your clothes in dry-cleaning bags and dressing in the garage! It was untrue and unkind. I think its time for OP to otherwise adopt a broken record response, like Nope, not wearing any perfume today. This isnt because OP has done anything wrongin fact, shes done everything right and has gone The other coworker who was complained about took an internal transfer. We disclaim all responsibility for the professional qualifications and licensing of, and services provided by, any physician or other health providers posting on or otherwise referred to on this Site and/or any Third Party Site. I am scent sensitive but not to all scents, and I have colleagues who are more sensitive than I but who can tolerate things I cant.). Ugh the bathroom fabreeze. But its not just adjustingits spending a fair whack of money on new products, an expense that can be a considerable burden at some income levels. Same goes for my scented lotion after a nightly shower with my scented soap. Sure, it could be that theres a specific scent here (like patchouli) that others in the office dont have, but it does seem a little unusual that the OP is the only one getting complaints. Im thinking the co-worker is using the term patchouli as an insult, catch-all term to encompass all hippie-ish smells (patchouli, sandalwood, desert sage, etc) of the type that might be sold at with other natural oils. Does that even matter though? This. I hesitated, but in the end, I just couldnt ride in such a small box with him smelling like that. Been out of college over 10 years and still cant drink it at all. So shes either exaggerating (because of being a jerk) or to be slightly more charitable shes now got herself into such a state of snittitude that she now genuinely smells patchouli where none exists, e.g., in a mildly lemon-scented body wash. I also tend to use unscented deodorant and laundry detergent; I really dislike how chemical-y scented products like this tend to be. With my coworker, it gets bad every few weeks. I explained his cologne was overpowering and offered him the elevator while I would take the stairs. BTW, I always carry surgical masks and charcoal filters with me. However, consideration goes both ways and it sounds like your coworker is taking this to an extreme. I think Ive only asked someone once to stop wearing her perfume (I only worked in that office a few days a month so I figured she could maybe just not wear it those days, and she generally didnt after that which I really appreciated.) Misophonia is a neurophysiological disorder in which sufferers face an aversive reaction to otherwise normal sounds and (visual) stimuli. Agreed on the connotation, but I also note that its got some nice up-market uses as well; Chanels Coromandel is one of my favorite perfumes, and its built on a patchouli note. (It just fell in! This fear of imperfection keeps the Rooster on the fence. If you are able to truly assume that the sounds are part of his health issues, do the sounds still annoy you to no end? My conditions have all been verified by multiple doctors and specialists.). Its possible that its lingering in a way that you dont realize. If I were in this spot, I swear at this point I would assume shes only doing this to bother me. Here are 11 signs you're dealing with a toxic coworker. At that point, I think the OP can justifiably say that shes done what she can do, and if further accommodations are needed, the coworker needs to sort that out with their employer, not with OP. Im not altering a huge chunk of my life because someone doesnt like how I smell. I have miso and I sniffle. If exposed long enough, the migraine will last for 4 days, so its absolutely no joke, and my productivity drops precipitously. Im quite certain that nobody else around her is making this much of an effort to be scent-free. Either way, OP certainly doesnt want to make matters worse so she probably shouldnt try it! The last few days its been cold, windy and raining. spreading sexual rumors about an employee, or repeated hugs or other unwanted touching (such as a hand on an employee's back). I'm two hours into a four hour class with a girl who has a whole box of tissues but is still perpetually sucking snot into her throat. For the people who dislike it or for whom it is an unexpected smell, it is hated. They Are Constantly Complaining About You: If a coworker constantly complains about you, they want the bosses to know that they are not happy with you. . OK? .true story, I made my partner change laundry detergents after wed been together a few months. And theres a limit to how much Im willing to let work infringe on my ability to surround myself with a pleasant environment in my off-hours, in the way that I define a pleasant environment, which for me is strongly scent-based. 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