Thats the interesting flaw of her. !, Matt Walsh) was about to deliver a heartfelt eulogy about Selina to his viewers, but in the ultimate karmic-cruel joke, he had to cut his report short to cover more important breaking news: the death of Tom Hanks. So again, it wouldve been Jonahs fault that she didnt get what she wanted. Veep. This is, you know it's roadkill." She has a new Amy [in Michelle, played by Rhea Seehorn]. He doesnt see it. declares Louis-Dreyfus, who emailed Hanks for his blessing. Plus, he has that weird nickname, Buttf***er.'. I dont think an answer would have been satisfying. All Rights Reserved. The gut-punch of a betrayal played out in the present-day ending of Sunday's series finale, which then jumped ahead 24 years to former President Meyer's funeral. Desperate to find a fall guy for her scandals with the Meyer Fund and illicit ties to the Chinese government (whom she actively courted to meddle in the election), Selina chose the best man(child) for the job: poor, naive Gary. And that sat with me over the time of when Julia had cancer. Maybe, just maybe obviously with all the people from the measles, maybe people will start to go, Well, wait a second, if they were right about vaccines, maybe they were right about the climate.. We even had a [scene], it just didnt quite exactly work, where she was watching the funeral, sort of laughing. It was kinda great., TRUMP MOMENT as @VeepHBO closing credit scene is ???????????? While the titular role in Selena: The Series will be taken on by . "He invested his co-dependent energy in trying to please somebody elsegetting them to like him, not valuing himself," he continues. Even when we got together and watched the last episode [on Sunday night], just swapping stories and talking about our time in Baltimore. During her desperate, obsessive drive to return to . But the way she talks about the position in the finale is so warped its declawing, its demeaning, its worse than death that she sounds victimized for having to serve in that position, which is the second most powerful personOne of the many reasons we called the final episode Veep is that who is going to be her vice president is such a giant piece of her salvation. Pam Grier reflects on her most iconic roles, from. She, more than anyone, could leave and walk away, and doesnt. Selina Meyer and her staff try to take on the White House in this HBO sitcom. Im hoping that well get it in this year, but Im not sure we will. I wish in retrospect, we had managed to put maybe one, or two other clues along the way But there is no answer. It was really like, 'All right, this is it.'". When Kent is basically bellowing at Selina and kind of losing it a little bit, the camera finds Amy there. And youre right, he did look rough. Its sort of the way I treat my in-laws, which is, I never say their name, because my instinct is to call them Mr. And Im certainly not gonna call them by their first name, so I just avoid calling them.. We talk a lot about that. Again, not through emotional words, but just in his support. Maybe its all for the best. MANDEL RESPONDS: It doesnt surprise me that people like Mother. I love Mother. I guess it surprises me that it was such a clear winner, just because its that typical sort of thing its hard to pick among your children, as they say. So Im really deeply going to miss it, really bad. Not the way they talked about it, no., Its related to Selinas off-camera miscarriage, revealed in Season 1s Full Disclosure. Its hard to imagine it being something that they had already talked about. He seems goofy enough to pull it off, he simply says, I think he just thinks corduroy is not very tasteful.. Subscribe for full access to The Hollywood Reporter. The government shutdown episode. I think he definitely saw her in a different light and I think Selinas legacy is a trail of sadness. We talked a lot about a more standard ending, if you will, where Selina is right about to become president and then she was going to do some of the same things offer Jonah the Vice Presidency. What exactly happened on Labor Day? Im just now thinking about this, but I think during those 20 years, there was probably a good five years in the beginning that he thought she was going to change her mind and wake up and realize how special he was to her. "There was just an enormous amount of restraint. "There is a part of Selina that recognizes that Gary is maybe the only one who's ever really loved her, and she's giving that up," says Louis-Dreyfus. However, proof begins to surface that Chung was actually born overseas (in like Brazil or something unexpected) and he is thrown out of office. "Like a dog returning to its vomit" is how Tony Hale recently and colorfully described it. Well do a big vaudeville act! Were you surprised? But let me tell you, when youre President of the United States, Gary Walsh is not the guy you want around you. I think shes that kind of boss that would give you things to do, and before you even had 30 seconds to do it, shed be asking where it was, and then she would take it back from you and do it herself. But its still Catherine. And what were the alts that didnt make it? How did you get her to return? Not exactly Dan, but Dan-esque. Ethan has it all thought out: Jonah, given his cancer scare and his ability to relate to the American people (because were all Jonahs, really), becomes one of the rising stars within the party and easily wins re-election in the midterms. Selina Meyer and her staff try to take on the White House in this HBO sitcom. And so in becoming president, Montez would have held on to her, and that there would have been a moment or two when we went back to the Montez White House, or even maybe trying to call Montez and Sue would have answered the phone, some version of that. and when I look back on my 52 years with almost 30 of them spent in public service there is no one who has sacrificed more than me. It would be a blast. What resonates with you or haunts you from those few days of filming?I wouldnt say it was hard but those were such emotional days. April 19 2015, 7:57 PM PDT. this link is to an external site that may or may not meet accessibility guidelines. And yeah, anybody who thought she should be president wasnt maybe paying attention the way they should have been. And of course he would be like, Yes.. Then he resigns. Its like, what the hell are you doing, dude? People started laughing, and then it just started that kind of rolling laughter, because youd watched nine shows of very clean, normal clips, and then all of a sudden Julia just called down hellfire. Oh, no, no, no!' I think he might view Selina with a little more empathy and compassion. I loved it, because it was obviously a salute to the show, but by the way, was also proving my point, Mandel says. And so, Julia e-mailed him, and then we got back this very quick auto-response, that was like, Im traveling. I think any opportunity where Selina can be dealing with a real political issue, a real piece of politics, and at the same time, we can mix in a personal issue and it doesnt necessarily mean someoned be dying, but just anything smaller and personal thats a great combination for Veep. Sometimes you have to stand back and remind everybody that were playing a horrific scene, but your characters dont quite know how horrific it is. And it's kind of also not fair." And it was just ideal. Theres that part where she asks for the favor and then she stops herself and says, Oh never mind. I asked this question, because it sounded like she was going to say it and then stopped herself. Its just always been there., Amy (Anna Chlumsky) is so beyond driven to get Jonah elected, and shes relishing in her return to power, but then she reverses course. Another sleazy scumbag operator a la Dan. Whats not in Garys bag. I guess that would be a real problem. Its time to make everybody pay. Its the darkest moment for Selina and for the show. But you saw that tinge of humanity in her that made her sad. Selina snaps out of that moment of sad solitude when the Israeli Prime Minister calls, and shes charmingly back to doing what she does best. Among the who's-who . she kept it together while holding the nuclear codes, she never grabbed people by the p***y. b). Maybe at that moment she sticks her toe in that regret pond, but then quickly pulls it out, and moves forward with her miserable selfalone, and without anyone or anything in her life of meaning. Shell push it down because shes Selina, but I think in every moment of silence, that will be back in her life forever. At some point or another, I think I whispered that she won. This is the main character of a TV show, and you relish in her horribleness. So I saw that a bunch, and I even saw people thinking he would [be nominated for] president somehow in this convention, that he would somehow emerge from the morass. I enjoyed it just because of the fun and the silliness of all the different time periods and all that kind of stuff, the chance to do sort of the Gilbert and Sullivan musical, and that kind of a thing.. The tragedy of Selena's death was both manner and timing: On March 31, 1995 at her then musical heightat the moment when she was reaching vast audiences in both Mexico and AmericaSelena . And perhaps had she just made peace with Kemi [Toks Olagundoye] early on, a lot of this could have been avoided. So hell blow up at Dan or Jonah, but never Selina. It was very satisfying for him. Can you talk about that choice? The holiday falls on the first Monday of . Below, in a chat with THR, Hale digs into the shocking events of the series finale, reveals how he and Louis-Dreyfus went about filming the scene, and offers up a take that might just helpVeep viewers sleep at night when they think about Garys fate. But I think for Amy, who was all in on Jonah for a variety of reasons some of which were the decisions shed made in her life in the sense of she chose work over possibly a family and then when you make a decision like that, she had to double down with Jonah. Selina wasnt a robot. And to answer Jamies question, Why would Gary wearing corduroy not happen? And the realization that this mom and dad is obviously what made this sort of creature, but also that her dad explains a little bit of why shes with Andrew [David Pasquesi]. And I do think its a little hopeful. The betrayal and flash-forward outcome solidified Selinas monstrous transformation and yet, if you ask Hale, he has a surprising take on how it all played out. it's been getting some buzz around the web. From what I remember, I think we did the scene several times before the balloons. Hes done outrageous things for her and nothing has yet snapped him out of it. And she can't really allow herself to question that sacrifice. The whole team (reluctantly) returns to work for Jonahs campaign. That guy has shown his dark side way too many times (Dans resignation) and has probably done some nasty stuff during his career, Viktor Cegledi reasoned. The first Labor Day holiday was celebrated on Tuesday, September 5, 1882, in New York City, in accordance with the plans of the Central Labor Union. AmyBrookheimer(Anna Chlumsky) tells viewers that Selina never visited him. So yeah, there was just a lot of joy. And then when she was writing the book with Mike, a little bit more about her father. I mean, she doesn't dare go down that path of regret. "I'm actually really glad it happened because Gary needed to be woken up," he tells EW. What makes it more horrific certainly on Garys part is how innocent and Gary-esque he is right until the end. He just keeps bouncing back to this dysfunction. It was lovely that he came to New York for the premiere, and obviously, hes busy with [upcoming HBO space comedy Avenue 5]. [Laughs] Thats a recipe for disaster. We do like the long con. And my guess is it was a similar sort of financial campaign thing. To read what Louis-Dreyfus and Hale thought of Selinas betrayal of Gary, head over here. She wasnt completely disconnected. TVLINE | What was your reaction when you got the script and read the fight scene? This was a really [important] scene, and we wanted to make sure it gelled, so we worked on it in for a while to find the flow of it. In the mornings before they come to get her, she will be up and dressed and waiting to get out of those family quarters and to get back to the Oval and business. We both agreed that it held a tremendous amount of weight [if we didnt know]. I think there was something very funny to me that somehow you end up with him and Spiro Agnew in the same historical footnote. ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: Please. It might be revealed down the road. I love the idea that he solved it with three states. When she says to him, I need you to do a favor for me. Going to jail was never in the cards of that favor in Garys mind. That was a nuclear bomb. This relationship is done.' She wants him to pick up coffee or go get those shoes that she bought. It went on the wish list. My guess is that I think he was probably in prison for about 20 years. The Central Labor Union held its second Labor Day holiday just a year later, on September 5, 1883. Disturbing. PMC Entertainment. Thats the wrong guy. Him seeing her just standing there, looking at whats happening, I knew, shes in on this. It was horrific to film. Ethan Hart gave a vague response: Im not sure, but I would love to see a Veep character cry like Carrie on Homeland. Sonia Murray, however, was very specific (Homeland spoiler alert! ", Taking the stage and securing her second shot at historyhistory that she felt was hers to claimSelina addressed the crowd. Desperate to find a fall guy for her scandals with the Meyer Fund and illicit ties to the . "I felt in a sense like I had tight reins on myself, I was trying very hard not to let a certain kind of emotion flow out of me," she says. And we went back and forth on a lot of other things. '", The scene, which illustrated the karmic punishment that had been meted out to her, served as an appropriate cautionary ending to a show steeped in corrosive cynicism and selfishness, according to Hale. So its like there was an undercurrent of knowing that it was the end and us doing a scene that was the end between us that compounded the emotion. Yet, Catherine seemed happier for it. You dont ever really get to see Gary angry, but Tony is channeling sort of a little bit of a disgust, if you will. Below, Hale takes us behind the scenes of the epic clash, teases the fallout to come, and sheds light on that Labor Day riddle. 2023 TVLine Media, LLC. All season long and for much of the series Veep has been exploring the question: How far is ex-VP, former POTUS, and forever egotist Selina Meyer willing to go to become president? We trade him for the sadly now deceased Peter Quinn. When Gary is being taken away by the FBI, he fights it until he sees that shes aware of whats happening. Yeah. The international opinion on Trump is quite clear, so I think they are fascinated by [whats happening], and horrified, much like a lot of Americans. I was weirdly very satisfied by it because nothing was going to wake Gary out of this abusive cycle but this.. And it's just like, of course she's not going to put herself in that. I like to think shes haunted because you two are a favorite TV couple in a twisted way. Because that moment she realized she wasnt going to have to change it to something else. Hes around her again. "That is the end result.". We sort of got a little freaked out by what that meant, and Julia was in the middle of trying to get through to his agent, or any of those kinds of things, when all of a sudden, the response came back, and he was delighted and gave a big thumbs up. Thats hard to say goodbye to. I think even when shes nice, theres usually ulterior motives or things that will get her to throw it away in a second., And as for the assessment of Selinas sexual prowess: I think she would take a lot of pride in knowing that people think shes good in bed, he says. Its not what comes later when shes alone but its that moment of, its like a chill runs down your body because you get the sense that a little chill is running down her. And did you initially try to get her back for more episodes this season?I think at some point there was a thought of seeing her back in the Montez [Andrea Savage] days, season 6. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Do you haveconfidence in new showrunner, [Curb Your Enthusiasm EP]David Mandel? How many takes did you get to nail Gary and Selinas final scenes, first their goodbye and then their final glance once the FBI comes? Entertainment Weekly may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. So why is he there? And so Selina Joker-ed her way out of brokered convention and wound up back in the Oval Office, but at great cost: She was now the most powerful person in the world, but also the loneliest, having sold out those nearest to her. When we learn that Richard Splett [Sam Richardson] becomes a historic two-term president, it feels like some reward and justice in this cold, cruel world. The truth is, shed done so many horrible things over the course of [the show], you had to dig deep to make it real. He legitimately was there to say goodbye. TVLINE | Did you and Julia spend a lot of time working on the scene to get it just right? They are looking to Veep for a little bit of comedy, because he makes them so nervous, he says. "Thank you and God bless America!". After both Selina and Gary suffer heart attacks this season, she shows a little humanity when she takes care of him in the basement of her brownstone. I looked at this as, Well, maybe this will snap him out of it. Maybe hell wake up to the abuse. She couldnt even face Gary to do it, thats how much of a coward she was. You dont really want Selina to be president, you kind of want Julia to be president. And there have even occasionally been people [who said], Why does she keep falling for it? And their relationship is also pretty screwed up. Louis-Dreyfus said she believed something crosses Selinas eyes of perhaps remorse and love for Gary in their goodbye. I think people forget that she did rise up through the political system, and that requires a certain amount of street-fighting skills and an inherent political sense, and she has that. [Laughs. But near the end of Sunday's series finale, it all came crashing down in the show's darkest moment. 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